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Gas prices shrink NYC traffic Sunday, July 06, 2008
New York Times -- Soaring gas prices and higher tolls seem to be doing for traffic in New York what Mayor Michael Bloomberg's ambitious congestion pricing was supposed to do: reducing the number of cars clogging the city's streets and pushing more people to use mass transit. In May, with gasoline at more than $4 a gallon, traffic at the Metropolitan Transportation Authority's bridges and tunnels dropped 4.7 percent compared with the same month the previous year. Preliminary data for June shows a similar decrease in traffic, and officials say the change is largely because of higher prices at the pump. The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey has recorded a similar decline in travel across its bridges and tunnels since early March, when it raised tolls. The greatest decline was in April, when traffic fell by 4.2 percent. (The transportation authority also increased tolls in March, but by a much smaller amount.)
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	Sunday, July 06, 2008 New York Times -- Soaring gas prices and higher tolls seem to be doing for traffic in New York what Mayor Michael Bloomberg's ambitious congestion pricing was supposed to do: reducing the number of cars clogging the city's streets and pushing more people to use mass transit. In May, with gasoline at more than $4 a gallon, traffic at the Metropolitan Transportation Authority's bridges and tunnels dropped 4.7 percent compared with the same month the previous year. Preliminary data for June shows a similar decrease in traffic, and officials say the change is largely because of higher prices at the pump. The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey has recorded a similar decline in travel across its bridges and tunnels since early March, when it raised tolls. The greatest decline was in April, when traffic fell by 4.2 percent. (The transportation authority also increased tolls in March, but by a much smaller amount.) Visit New York Times for full article

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NinaGA Sophomore Author Atlanta Posts:158 Points:31,210 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: 7/8/2008 6:28:14 PM	Ignore NinaGA Report Abuse
	Not surprised
magnumCA All-Star Author Los Angeles Posts:864 Points:180,500 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: 7/8/2008 3:24:06 PM	Ignore magnumCA Report Abuse
	I doubt it
corgone Sophomore Author Florida Posts:159 Points:21,865 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: 7/7/2008 2:45:13 PM	Ignore corgone Report Abuse
	So with less congestion does this mean that people will drive a little more kindly?=~)
letmathe Champion Author Chicago Posts:6,549 Points:1,619,360 Joined:May 2001	Message Posted: 7/7/2008 8:08:20 AM	Ignore letmathe Report Abuse
	Driving in NYC will remain a totally interesting experience for the foreseeable future, I'm sure!
JimL1 Champion Author Phoenix Posts:1,001 Points:221,235 Joined:Jul 2003	Message Posted: 7/7/2008 7:57:11 AM	Ignore JimL1 Report Abuse
	Increase the cost of driving until only the wealthy privileged few can afford to use the roads that all of us paid to construct. This is the great American way. It is just like our US Congress which gets a raise, then reduces the medicare payments to the doctors who will now refuse to accept medicare and increases the cost of medicare premiums. All this while congress enjoys health care benifits far beyond medicare.
domer2 Veteran Author Gary Posts:422 Points:289,950 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: 7/7/2008 7:56:09 AM	Ignore domer2 Report Abuse
	unbelievable gridlock to gridlock. yea.
unsoundmind Champion Author Salt Lake City Posts:3,893 Points:794,505 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: 7/7/2008 7:40:43 AM	Ignore unsoundmind Report Abuse
	If revenues fall, they will raise taxes, not on those that use the roads but on those that are now using mass transit. Maybe New York is like Denver Colorado where they imposed an occupational privilege tax. It's the tax you pay for working in the city. You don't get any services for that tax, but you do get to work there.
good2goVA Sophomore Author Virginia Posts:104 Points:39,145 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: 7/7/2008 7:34:44 AM	Ignore good2goVA Report Abuse
	so when the transportation folks receive less money due to less traffic, they will have to tax folks a different way.
CatbirdWoman All-Star Author Ohio Posts:734 Points:253,580 Joined:Jan 2007	Message Posted: 7/7/2008 7:34:10 AM	Ignore CatbirdWoman Report Abuse
	I have never been in NYC but I would not like to drive in them.
HockeyLady All-Star Author New Jersey Posts:882 Points:852,055 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: 7/7/2008 7:30:28 AM	Ignore HockeyLady Report Abuse
	still need more mass transit to get to NYC!
CruisinLinda Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:4,238 Points:863,385 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: 7/7/2008 7:30:06 AM	Ignore CruisinLinda Report Abuse
	Any one who can afford the parking charges in Manhattan and the tolls, even before the increase, can afford the higher gas prices.
MG_Sputnik Veteran Author Philadelphia Posts:437 Points:376,370 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: 7/7/2008 7:30:06 AM	Ignore MG_Sputnik Report Abuse
	What about other cities?
jeb007 Veteran Author Indiana Posts:282 Points:57,705 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: 7/7/2008 7:29:59 AM	Ignore jeb007 Report Abuse
	Not surprised one bit. I bet it's less than that around here, but who knows.
PokerAce All-Star Author Louisiana Posts:966 Points:207,855 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: 7/7/2008 7:26:39 AM	Ignore PokerAce Report Abuse
	NYC traffic could stand some shrinkage.... I'll bet cabs have gone up in price a lot....
Blackice Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:1,360 Points:435,865 Joined:Oct 2003	Message Posted: 7/7/2008 7:25:35 AM	Ignore Blackice Report Abuse
	Let me know when traffic drops 24.7%. Now that would be something to report about.
RF4CPhantom All-Star Author Oklahoma City Posts:911 Points:123,605 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: 7/7/2008 7:25:21 AM	Ignore RF4CPhantom Report Abuse
	Very interesting~!
sjl08203 Champion Author New Jersey Posts:1,107 Points:383,655 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: 7/7/2008 7:24:07 AM	Ignore sjl08203 Report Abuse
	And my wallet
fastfreddy38 All-Star Author Ontario Posts:502 Points:823,845 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: 7/7/2008 7:23:09 AM	Ignore fastfreddy38 Report Abuse
	Exactly!!
LuvEd08 Sophomore Author Georgia Posts:171 Points:50,680 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: 7/7/2008 7:22:58 AM	Ignore LuvEd08 Report Abuse
	what about alternative fuel buses?
rbdesigns Veteran Author Modesto Posts:300 Points:86,270 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: 7/7/2008 7:21:03 AM	Ignore rbdesigns Report Abuse
	Gas goes up, everything else will follow!
rjb21760 All-Star Author Chicago Posts:593 Points:366,835 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: 7/7/2008 7:20:55 AM	Ignore rjb21760 Report Abuse
	Smaller cars and truck?
The_WB Champion Author Detroit Posts:3,431 Points:395,550 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: 7/7/2008 7:20:50 AM	Ignore The_WB Report Abuse
	5% is not enough to help NYC!
jackson661 Veteran Author Columbus Posts:273 Points:19,590 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: 7/7/2008 7:17:06 AM	Ignore jackson661 Report Abuse
	Well it is about time!
acknot Veteran Author Seattle Posts:482 Points:561,275 Joined:Sep 2003	Message Posted: 7/7/2008 7:15:47 AM	Ignore acknot Report Abuse
	This is a normal reaction.
Lonewolftx Champion Author Houston Posts:5,261 Points:1,033,260 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: 7/7/2008 7:15:15 AM	Ignore Lonewolftx Report Abuse
	An added benefit . . .
Don20 Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:1,090 Points:925,240 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: 7/7/2008 7:12:28 AM	Ignore Don20 Report Abuse
	That is good..
jetsfan6 Champion Author New Jersey Posts:2,979 Points:572,730 Joined:Apr 2004	Message Posted: 7/7/2008 7:12:27 AM	Ignore jetsfan6 Report Abuse
	I agree with Grebe. Next thing you know, they'll be raising tolls on us with the excuse that not enough people are driving and toll revenues are falling and that the current revenues willnot generate enough income. It's so fun living in the tollbooth capital of the world. not only do you have the bridges and the tunnels but also the garden State Parkway, the NJ Turnpike and the NY Thruway. My E-Z pass is smoking after a trip in the tri-state.
cresovia Rookie Author Tallahassee Posts:67 Points:92,405 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: 7/7/2008 7:09:34 AM	Ignore cresovia Report Abuse
	Poor New Yawkers!!!
Matts_Pap All-Star Author Pennsylvania Posts:827 Points:130,245 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: 7/7/2008 7:09:23 AM	Ignore Matts_Pap Report Abuse
	13 Thousand cabs use a lot of gas.
kypeanuts Veteran Author Louisville Posts:263 Points:57,330 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: 7/7/2008 7:08:54 AM	Ignore kypeanuts Report Abuse
	as long as prices continue to rise, traffic #'s will fall
cudatim All-Star Author San Antonio Posts:572 Points:313,775 Joined:Jan 2007	Message Posted: 7/7/2008 7:07:18 AM	Ignore cudatim Report Abuse
	NY NY, you got to love them.
Grebe Veteran Author Wisconsin Posts:396 Points:972,905 Joined:Feb 2003	Message Posted: 7/7/2008 7:05:22 AM	Ignore Grebe Report Abuse
	All these "gas prices makes a difference" articles are triggering bouts of deja vu. Next month's article: New York and New Jersey are having to dramatically increase their bridge and tunnel tolls due to severely declining traffic using those critical revenue sources.
Brn2bEvl Veteran Author New York Posts:397 Points:94,075 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: 7/7/2008 7:03:10 AM	Ignore Brn2bEvl Report Abuse
	Tell me about it!!!
tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:7,822 Points:629,085 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: 7/7/2008 7:01:38 AM	Ignore tomok Report Abuse
	Gas prices have shrunk traffic everywhere -- not just NYC....
hblee Sophomore Author Ontario Posts:124 Points:192,155 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: 7/7/2008 7:00:46 AM	Ignore hblee Report Abuse
	And I thought it was the outrageous prices they charge for parking in downtown Manhattan!
leolisa Champion Author New York Posts:3,915 Points:713,030 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: 7/7/2008 6:54:50 AM	Ignore leolisa Report Abuse
	price of gas and food..who can afford to drive anymore?
sailormon Veteran Author Michigan Posts:428 Points:158,570 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: 7/7/2008 6:52:47 AM	Ignore sailormon Report Abuse
	You should see the double decker parking spaces in NYC! And the prices they pay for parking downtown!!
FFootdoc12 Sophomore Author Illinois Posts:154 Points:34,785 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: 7/7/2008 6:50:39 AM	Ignore FFootdoc12 Report Abuse
	the tip of the iceberg
AlaRedNeck All-Star Author Kansas Posts:706 Points:120,850 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: 7/7/2008 6:49:50 AM	Ignore AlaRedNeck Report Abuse
	Sure demand is down...but they lower production to keep the prices high.
RochBear Champion Author Minnesota Posts:1,297 Points:423,650 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: 7/7/2008 6:49:00 AM	Ignore RochBear Report Abuse
	New York is one of the few places in this country which does have good mass transit. The subway system is great. And if you think gas is expensive, you should try to park a car in the city.
krucker Sophomore Author Austin Posts:181 Points:346,805 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: 7/7/2008 6:47:54 AM	Ignore krucker Report Abuse
	Good. Demand is down................Prices should drop.............RIGHT?
yelobus Veteran Author Houston Posts:462 Points:475,655 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: 7/7/2008 6:47:09 AM	Ignore yelobus Report Abuse
	Good.
proverbs3 Rookie Author Detroit Posts:67 Points:21,610 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: 7/7/2008 6:40:51 AM	Ignore proverbs3 Report Abuse
	You know that everyone is going to try to get their money somehow. Government funded road improvements - less money from people paying gas tax, the government will come up with something creative. Bridge, Tunnel, Toll ways - less vehicles means less money for them. They will increase their tolls even more.
Netscaper113 Champion Author New York City Posts:5,148 Points:1,006,175 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: 7/7/2008 6:38:26 AM	Ignore Netscaper113 Report Abuse
	sure..
mcevoy22 Sophomore Author Utah Posts:148 Points:37,170 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: 7/7/2008 6:35:26 AM	Ignore mcevoy22 Report Abuse
	I feel sorry for those New Yorkers paying twice for the increase in gas prices.
spunky4443 All-Star Author Washington Posts:700 Points:366,850 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: 7/7/2008 6:34:23 AM	Ignore spunky4443 Report Abuse
	I would imagine alot of the 50 states, would be having problems with HIGH fuel prices.
SpruceGuse2 Champion Author Michigan Posts:1,261 Points:772,100 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: 7/7/2008 6:34:21 AM	Ignore SpruceGuse2 Report Abuse
	New York traffic..............how about the entire North American Continent traffic?
mrkel Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:1,338 Points:724,455 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: 7/7/2008 6:33:48 AM	Ignore mrkel Report Abuse
	Way to go NYC!
ardmoretoday Veteran Author Oklahoma Posts:425 Points:368,855 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: 7/7/2008 6:33:41 AM	Ignore ardmoretoday Report Abuse
	Same old news.
gasman50 All-Star Author Portland Posts:935 Points:733,390 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: 7/7/2008 6:29:00 AM	Ignore gasman50 Report Abuse
	Another excuse for government to raise taxes and tolls